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April 17, 2025
Meredith Badalucca, Assistant Planner
Town of Montville
310 Norwich-New London Tpke., Uncasville, CT 06382
Via Email: mbadalucca@montville-ct.org
RE: Site Plan Application 25SITE2 Review
145 Route 32 & 18 Powerhouse Road (“Madison Place”)
CLA-7873G
Dear Meredith:
CLA Engineers, Inc. (CLA) has received the application materials for the above referenced project
as emailed to our office and located on the Town Form Repository:
https://www.townofmontville.org/form-repository/25-site-2-145-route-32-multi-family-
development/
CLA has performed a review of the application documents and offer the following comments:
Engineering Report
Previous Comment #2: The existing condition Drainage Area “A” travel time: The sheet flow
component appears to be longer than 100’ and the slopes appears to less than 8.8%, potentially in
the range of 2.5-3%. This should be reviewed. And recalculated.
Applicants Response: Response: Please see page 54 in the Engineering Report. The first 100 feet
has been calculated utilizing the Sheet Flow criteria. The remainder of the flow path has been
calculated using concentrated flow per standard practice. The entire segment slope has been
calculated based on the aggregate slope between the beginning high point and the ending point of
concern.
New Comment
- In our opinion the sheet flow length for this watershed travel path is longer than the
100’ used in the calculations. Please see attached SK1 an excerpt of the DA-EX
watershed map from the Engineering Report. In our opinion the sheet flow
component would extend to the top of slope at approximately contour 105, adding
another ±60 to the sheet flow component. Limiting this length to 150’ would not be
unreasonable in accordance with the DOT Drainage Manual Section 6.C.4 (attached).
- An aggregate slope should not be used for the entire travel path time of concentration
calculation. The actual slope of the land for each segment of the travel path should
be used. In this case, sheet flow is the largest component of the time of concentration,
and the actual land slope is approximately 2% vs the 8.8% used in the calculations.
Using the actual land slope may substantially change the calculations.
CLA Engineers, Inc.
Civil Structural Survey
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Previous Comment #3: The existing and post development travel times are identical in the
calculations but are depicted differently in the mapping. Actual ground slopes should be used in
the calculations.
Applicants Response: While there is minor grading in some areas, the aggregate slopes from each
endpoint do not change from the pre existing to post existing development conditions.
New Comments
- Please see the comment above regarding using the actual land slope for each segment
when calculating travel times.
- Please see attached SK1 and SK2, excerpts from DA-EX and DA-PR indicating two
different flow path length for the travel flow path. These differences are not reflected
in the calculations (See highlighted summaries attached).
- As shown on SK1 and SK2 there appears to be a substantial difference in ground
slope for each of the sheet flow components. As previously noted, in this case the
sheet flow is the largest component in the time of concentration calculation, and land
slope will have impact to those calculations.
The concern with the times of concentration calculations is that the existing conditions peak
stormwater flow rates may be lower than calculated in the Report and the post development
may be higher than calculated in the Report; therefore, additional subsurface storage may
be needed.
All other previous comments have been addressed.
Thank you for the opportunity to provide this review. Please feel free to call me at our office or
email khaubert@claengineers.com with any questions.
Very truly yours,
CLA Engineers, Inc.
Kyle Haubert, P.E.